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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:34 pm 
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This was my second trip into the world of pedal building without buying a complete kit. I sourced the PCB and most of the components from Tayda and the remainder from BYOC. This build, while fairly straight forward, took a turn to the dark side when I tried to 'test drive' it. Bypass worked perfectly but absolutely nothing when the switch was engaged. I went to Tayda’s web site looking for a schematic and that’s when I read, in Bright RED Letters, that Tayda doesn’t have a schematic for this PCB. I won't go into any of the details here, but here is the link to the ensuing conversations that took place (viewtopic.php?f=9&t=59689). Leave it to several good folks that watch the “DYI Discussion” board to get me back on track and now have a fully functional Shred Master!

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Nice, neat build, Steve. Not exactly crowded in there, is it?? :wink:

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duhvoodooman wrote:
Nice, neat build, Steve. Not exactly crowded in there, is it?? :wink:


A little more 'crowded' with the original foot switch PCB... :mrgreen:


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Nice work! It's so satisfying to build this way, although I love kits too.

(Impressively crowded enclosures are the most overrated thing in pedal building. Build big!)

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SteveO wrote:
duhvoodooman wrote:
Nice, neat build, Steve. Not exactly crowded in there, is it?? :wink:


A little more 'crowded' with the original foot switch PCB... :mrgreen:

That's funny! The rest of the pedal is so space-efficient, and that footswitch PCB is HUGE, for what it does! :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:15 am 
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excellent work. congrats.

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Another beauty, SteveO!

That is way cool how you mounted the pcb!

Nicely done!

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duhvoodooman wrote:
That footswitch PCB is HUGE, for what it does! :shock:

It sure is! :mrgreen:

Incidentally, SteveO, if you like the GuitarPCB 3PDT PCBs, I have 4 or 5 of them that I'm never gonna use. Weird reasons, I guess: the wire I use is thicker gauge than the holes on those boards, and also I am never going to use a bi-color LED—and also also, I am NEVER going to be able to remember how to wire a regular LED into the bi-color LED holes. Anyway, you're welcome to them, just shoot me your mailing address.

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Twilt wrote:
Another beauty, SteveO!

That is way cool how you mounted the pcb!

Nicely done!

~Troy

Thanks, but the PCB mount was all Tayda. The two bottom pots were suppose to mount on the board as well but couldn't source the B25k with the PCB pin mount. So I opted to just hand wire the lug style.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:04 am 
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Thanks guys!

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I'm glad that thing worked out and I am envious of your decorating skills. But I still wonder about the original issue of the 3 V drop when using the other Tayda board. Was that ever resolved?


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I'm glad that thing worked out and I am envious of your decorating skills. But I still wonder about the original issue of the 3 V drop when using the other Tayda board. Was that ever resolved?

No, unfortunately. 'Jimilee' stated "I wonder what the point of the Tayda switchboard is. It says it will trim 3 volts off.' I went back and read and re-read the description of that PCB but was never able to find that information. That being said, now that the pedal is functioning, it will be easy to wire that back in and see if it functions. When I do that, I'll report my findings.
Thanks again for your help! I really was ready to 'round file' this project.

-=Steve

p.s. I was able to locate a schematic (after the fact) that is very close to the Tayda PCB. It is in a .pdf format and very easy to read. Here is the link if you are interested.
https://aionfx.com/app/files/docs/solst ... tation.pdf

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SteveO wrote:
...I was able to locate a schematic (after the fact) that is very close to the Tayda PCB. It is in a .pdf format and very easy to read. Here is the link if you are interested.
https://aionfx.com/app/files/docs/solst ... tation.pdf

Just wondered, Steve, if you looked at BYOC's version of the circuit schematic here: http://byocelectronics.com/shredderschematic.pdf

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duhvoodooman wrote:
SteveO wrote:
...I was able to locate a schematic (after the fact) that is very close to the Tayda PCB. It is in a .pdf format and very easy to read. Here is the link if you are interested.
https://aionfx.com/app/files/docs/solst ... tation.pdf

Just wondered, Steve, if you looked at BYOC's version of the circuit schematic here: http://byocelectronics.com/shredderschematic.pdf


No, I didn't. I didn't even think to check there (smacks forehead with palm of hand). I see that the IC is labeled a,b,c,d, and shows 14 pins. Does that mean it uses a 14 pin op amp?
Very similar circuits for sure!

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SteveO wrote:
I see that the IC is labeled a,b,c,d, and shows 14 pins. Does that mean it uses a 14 pin op amp?

Yes--a quad op amp instead of two dual op amps. Works the same way, though--four amplification stages, but combined into a single IC.

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duhvoodooman wrote:
SteveO wrote:
I see that the IC is labeled a,b,c,d, and shows 14 pins. Does that mean it uses a 14 pin op amp?

Yes--a quad op amp instead of two dual op amps. Works the same way, though--four amplification stages, but combined into a single IC.

Look at me... learning something new every day! :mrgreen:

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SteveO wrote:
WMP1 wrote:
I'm glad that thing worked out and I am envious of your decorating skills. But I still wonder about the original issue of the 3 V drop when using the other Tayda board. Was that ever resolved?

No, unfortunately. 'Jimilee' stated "I wonder what the point of the Tayda switchboard is. It says it will trim 3 volts off.' I went back and read and re-read the description of that PCB but was never able to find that information. That being said, now that the pedal is functioning, it will be easy to wire that back in and see if it functions. When I do that, I'll report my findings...


While waiting for parts for a couple of other builds I have started, I wired the funky Tayda foot switch PCB back onto the effects board. Zilch! Nada! Nothing! I will salvage the foot switch and jacks and write the rest off as 'lesson learned'.

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SteveO wrote:
SteveO wrote:
WMP1 wrote:
I'm glad that thing worked out and I am envious of your decorating skills. But I still wonder about the original issue of the 3 V drop when using the other Tayda board. Was that ever resolved?

No, unfortunately. 'Jimilee' stated "I wonder what the point of the Tayda switchboard is. It says it will trim 3 volts off.' I went back and read and re-read the description of that PCB but was never able to find that information. That being said, now that the pedal is functioning, it will be easy to wire that back in and see if it functions. When I do that, I'll report my findings...


While waiting for parts for a couple of other builds I have started, I wired the funky Tayda foot switch PCB back onto the effects board. Zilch! Nada! Nothing! I will salvage the foot switch and jacks and write the rest off as 'lesson learned'.

-=SteveO
I don’t use them, I don’t find them any easier and just as tedious.


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