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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:25 pm 
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Just did a completed listing search on ebay, and a couple have sold in the $450 area. Vintage muff is serious business.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:50 pm 
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hmm, this makes me re-evaluate my idea of modding it. theres no harm in putting a boost in a second enclosure. I think i'll go with the pots pointed out by morgan. i'm still putting a 9v jack on it regardless of what anyone says

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:00 pm 
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culturejam wrote:
Edit: I'd probably punch a baby for that thing. :lol:

ROFLMO! :lol: :lol:

I happen to be home with my sick 2 year old today. I have a video camera and he is driving me a bit crazy... :shock: :twisted:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:02 pm 
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spin wrote:
i'm still putting a 9v jack on it regardless of what anyone says

I was thinking about how I'd handle this if I were going to restore it, and I would probably end going with one of these and just snake it through the gap in the enclosure (jokes!):

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Or you could just make one with a longer lead, but for $3 I'd probably just buy it.

But I don't think adding a power jack is going to significantly hurt the value.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:07 pm 
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spin wrote:
I think i'll go with the pots pointed out by morgan.

I think the original ones were the CTS pots with plastic splined shafts. I've seen those exact ones somewhere before...

Close, but not PCB mount: Image

You might look around for a bit to see if you can locate the right brand. I've seen the right pointer knobs in the past too; just can't find them at the moment.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:26 pm 
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I think this is the one Morgan is talking about:

http://www.newoldsounds.com/index.php?m ... cts_id=857


or here:

http://www.guitarpartssite.com/CTS-100k ... cts-ns.htm

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thanks for all the input guys. If i didn't ask i would have ended up buying some generic pots off jameco. I'm also rebuilding a gibson l6-s, i will get your opinons on that when the time comes.

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i'm only seeing 100k in the linear tapered, i guess i'll search around more for the other

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:56 pm 
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culturejam wrote:
I think this is the one Morgan is talking about:

Not quite; you want them in the long pin pcb mount, like the Alpha's a SBE. I know I've seen them around, just can't find them today. I think I'd stick with the proper pc mount pots instead of adding wire to the pedal. these things use the pots as a mounting point.

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Morgan wrote:
culturejam wrote:
I think this is the one Morgan is talking about:

Not quite; you want them in the long pin pcb mount, like the Alpha's a SBE. I know I've seen them around, just can't find them today. I think I'd stick with the proper pc mount pots instead of adding wire to the pedal. these things use the pots as a mounting point.

Right, nice catch. :D

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This thing has the 2N5133 button top transistors, which by what i am seeing is slightly more rare. I'm definitely not gonna start drilling holes. you may all rest. I will do a proper restoration. Its a damn shame i stepped on the knobs 15 years ago.

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spin wrote:
This thing has the 2N5133 button top transistors, which by what i am seeing is slightly more rare.

You can say that again. Those are the holy-magic-mother-of-mojo transistors for the Muff circuit.

I hear that some people will even punch babies to get ahold of a Muff that has those in it. :lol:

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I'll punch your baby for it! :lol:


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I am striking out trying got find pcb mount cts pots. What are the chances i can use the shaft from a lugged pot? You guys think the molds are still the same after all these years?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:41 pm 
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I don't understand; what do you mean use the shaft from a lugged pot? Use the shaft for what?

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You can turn any solder lug pot into a PCB mount pot with some cast-off component leads. Stephen has a great pic (which is where i got the idea) in the 'tips for a successful build' thread.

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Morgan wrote:
I don't understand; what do you mean use the shaft from a lugged pot? Use the shaft for what?


take the shaft out of a new lugged pot, and put it in the housing of the original pcb pot.
if all else fails i'll do what tonedeaf suggests, or use non cts pots

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Ah, interesting! 8) Sounds dicey...

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Morgan wrote:
Ah, interesting! 8) Sounds dicey...

I was actually thinking about this. Like, a wiper transplant or something. :lol:

Or you could really be cheeky and call it a shaft swap. :shock:

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shaft swap successful. nice to know the pots are still the same after all these years. wasn't hard at all, way less fragile inside than i thought.

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Nice. Now... *taps foot impatiently* ...how does it sound? :D

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In all my (okay, five) years of DIY effects, I've not seen anyone dissect a pot and build it stronger than before. Potentiometer surgery for the win!

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its still in surgery, putting the 9v jack in as soon as i get someone here at the shop to watch the front. i removed the power switch and am installing the jack there as to cause as little disruption to its oringinal intergrity as possible. I have practice tonight, so i'll have a chance to hook it and see if it still works.

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